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Offline rod bender bob

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August Trawls ???
« on: 08/24/11, 10:43 »
Any word yet, seems about time :-)   

Offline John Hageman

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Re: August Trawls ???
« Reply #1 on: 08/26/11, 13:29 »
The August sampling is done. The Division of Wildlife Fisheries biologists will be calculating numbers and the results likely available by the end of next week.

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Re: August Trawls ???
« Reply #2 on: 08/26/11, 14:56 »
Don't think I can hold my breath that long :)

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Re: August Trawls ???
« Reply #3 on: 09/07/11, 04:17 »
Any news yet?

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Re: August Trawls ???
« Reply #4 on: 09/07/11, 07:41 »
UPDATE:  Sept. 7, 2011---Ohio August Walleye and Yellow Perch Trawl Data Preliminary Results
According to Roger Knight with the Sandusky Fish Research Unit, ODNR Division of Wildlife, the August Ohio trawl data was considered to be very low for walleye (comparable to the 2000 August data), with the yellow perch data the lowest since 1987.
Ohio is waiting to see the Ontario MNR trawling data, which will be included in the final assessment.
It should be noted that although dissolved oxygen levels were back to near normal in most trawling locations, some trawl sites still were experiencing slightly anoxic conditions, which could result in a lower catch from those sites.

Dave Kelch, Ohio Sea Grant Extension Specialist, Ohio Sea Grant College Program

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Re: August Trawls ???
« Reply #5 on: 09/16/11, 10:06 »
MAJOR disappointment.

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Re: August Trawls ???
« Reply #6 on: 09/16/11, 11:05 »
BOB:

Never say never. 
We have had years in the past (2007 was a good example) when the trawl reports were poor, yet once the 1-2 year old walleye began to show up in 08 and 09 trawls and angler reports, the 07 hatch report was corrected upwards.
Remember, this is an 'estimate' of the hatch----many variables (food abundance and location, wind, waves, currents, water temperature, oxygen levels) can impact if YOY walleye will be at those standard trawl sites every year at a given time. 
And it's the best estimate we have----sometimes it may be slightly off to the left or right, other times (2007) it can be way off, and sometimes it can be right on the money.
 None the less, the data is collected/compiled by our fishery management professionals on our side of the lake and from our management partners to the north with the best scientific knowledge that exists.  Trust their knowledge and expertise in managing this great resource.
Bottom line--it is what it is-----
We still have the greatest walleye fishery in the world.  :thumbsup:

Dave Kelch, Ohio Sea Grant Extension Specialist, Ohio Sea Grant College Program

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Re: August Trawls ???
« Reply #7 on: 09/19/11, 10:38 »
yes, you're right I just wanted it to show MAJOR hatch so I didn't have to endure another round of posts about how the lake is dying we have to C&R only,or set the limit at zero, or make the legal keep length limit 45 inches LOL

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Re: August Trawls ???
« Reply #8 on: 09/19/11, 11:05 »
I agree, those who cry wolf are clueless as to what it takes to have a good hatch and most importantly the survival of the fry. I know that they mean well and all but really do they have to always advocate closing the spring season, slot limits, increased minimum size as well as vastly reduced creel limits. Just because a female walleye is not heavy with eggs in june does not make her any less a female that is due to spawn the following spring!

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Re: August Trawls ???
« Reply #9 on: 10/07/11, 17:10 »
Are the Ontario numbers in yet?

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Re: August Trawls ???
« Reply #10 on: 10/10/11, 08:05 »
those who cry wolf are clueless as to what it takes to have a good hatch and most importantly the survival of the fry. I know that they mean well and all but really do they have to always advocate closing the spring season, slot limits, increased minimum size as well as vastly reduced creel limits. Just because a female walleye is not heavy with eggs in june does not make her any less a female that is due to spawn the following spring!
With walleye numbers down around 70% from a few years ago seems like your clueless!! :D
Since the survival of fry and conditions for a successful hatch are MULTIFACTORIAL, I vote for increasing the odds of successful spawn by whatever means necessary until two above average hatches occur consecutively.
That means:  Putting a size limit on Canadian walleye (Yep, taking a 13 incher means they don't even have a chance to spawn even once in their short lifetime), increasing our minimum size in the states (increase the chance that some of those 15-16 inch fish can actaully spawn); or put in a slot limit (Really increases the chances that those 18-22" fish are available to spawn); close the Maumee and Detroit fisheries (won't, too much money involved); and catch and release on the Lake until spawning ends (won't, see previous comment).
Do we have the best Walleye fishery in the world?  Well, we did, but it isn't now, at least in my opinion. <3

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Re: August Trawls ???
« Reply #11 on: 10/10/11, 15:31 »
I think we should wait until all follow the blue trail, and again ask what happened?    Remember when lake Erie had walleye ? ALL about cash

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Re: August Trawls ???
« Reply #12 on: 10/10/11, 16:21 »
those who cry wolf are clueless as to what it takes to have a good hatch and most importantly the survival of the fry. I know that they mean well and all but really do they have to always advocate closing the spring season, slot limits, increased minimum size as well as vastly reduced creel limits. Just because a female walleye is not heavy with eggs in june does not make her any less a female that is due to spawn the following spring!
With walleye numbers down around 70% from a few years ago seems like your clueless!! :D
Since the survival of fry and conditions for a successful hatch are MULTIFACTORIAL, I vote for increasing the odds of successful spawn by whatever means necessary until two above average hatches occur consecutively.
That means:  Putting a size limit on Canadian walleye (Yep, taking a 13 incher means they don't even have a chance to spawn even once in their short lifetime), increasing our minimum size in the states (increase the chance that some of those 15-16 inch fish can actaully spawn); or put in a slot limit (Really increases the chances that those 18-22" fish are available to spawn); close the Maumee and Detroit fisheries (won't, too much money involved); and catch and release on the Lake until spawning ends (won't, see previous comment).
Do we have the best Walleye fishery in the world?  Well, we did, but it isn't now, at least in my opinion. <3

BOB ask the experts -- WE HAVE ENOUGH walleye to have a mega hatch. Do you happen to remember 2003 when we had "low" numbers and we had calls for reduced limits, minimum size increases, making it illegal to CATCh or look at a walleye, etc. What happened, a MEGA hatch. We have enough fish for the spawn, we just need the stars to line up. And, spend our time fixing the algae problem!!!

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Re: August Trawls ???
« Reply #13 on: 11/06/11, 16:30 »
  Slot limit would be the greatest but as said it's that cash and BS.  I know for ever since I've fished and had a boat on the lake I've kept records and notations and I'm back to catching less than 10 over 28" in a year.  Oh! That's right personal records are not scientific, blah, blah, blah.  My wife retires soon and I think I'm taking my boat, my cash and all and going after that elusive world record in the great Northwest.  Some consider Walleye trash fish out there, Ha!  Probably take a couple Summer trips to figure it out.