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 on: 11/21/09, 16:45 
 
-a recent read...


Great Lakes, Great Peril

Special Section: This series will periodically examine challenges facing the Great Lakes in what experts forecast will be the century of water.

The decade-old battle to keep Asian carp out of the Great Lakes might be over.

New research shows the fish likely have made it past the $9 million electric fish barrier on the Chicago Sanitary and Ship Canal, a source familiar with the situation told the Journal Sentinel late Thursday.

The barrier is considered the last chance to stop the super-sized fish that can upend entire ecosystems, and recent environmental DNA tests showed that the carp had advanced to within a mile of the barrier.

That research backed the federal government into a desperate situation because the barrier must be turned off within a couple of weeks for regular maintenance. The plan is to spend some $1.5 million to temporarily poison the canal so the maintenance work can be done.

But even as those plans are being finalized the news everyone dreaded came: It might be too late.

Now the only thing left standing between the fish and Lake Michigan is a heavily used navigational lock.

Army Corps officials declined to comment on the situation.

"I am not prepared to discuss this today, but I will be prepared to discuss this tomorrow," Col. Vincent Quarles, commander of the Chicago District of the Army Corps of Engineers, said when asked about news that the fish had breached the barrier.

The Army Corps, along with its state and federal partners in the barrier's design and operation, has scheduled a news conference for 10 a.m. Friday.

The fish that can grow to 50 pounds or more are a big deal because they are voracious feeders, overwhelming native species, and they pose a huge hazard to recreational boaters because of their habit of jumping out of the water when agitated by the whir of a boat motor.

No fish have been found, but a new type of DNA testing that can show the presence of fish in the water shows that the barrier does not appear to have worked at stopping all the fish.

"We've got some bad problems," Dan Thomas, president of the Great Lakes Sport Fishing Council, said when told the news.

Thomas said the plan to poison the canal is going to have to grow to cover areas above the barrier, which is about 20 miles downstream from the Lake Michigan shoreline.

"Unless we treat that canal real quick as far up as we can, then we can almost be assured that they're on their way into the lake," he said.

For several years, the northern migration of the silver carp had stalled in a pool just above the Dresden Island Lock and Dam on the Des Plaines River southwest of Joliet, Ill. - about 20 miles downstream from the barrier.

In August, the Journal Sentinel learned the environmental DNA testing that biologists had quietly begun using on the canal revealed that the fish had started to move again. It's been all hands on deck ever since.

In addition to plans to poison the river, the Army Corps is scrambling to build a twin to the new barrier. It also is looking at building an emergency berm to prevent the fish from riding floodwaters from the carp-infested Des Plaines River into the canal above the barrier.

The two species of Asian carp threatening to invade Lake Michigan are silver and bighead carp. It's not known which species - or whether both species - have been detected above the barrier with DNA tests.

Silver carp are considered the bigger threat to the economy, ecology and culture of the Great Lakes because of their penchant for leaping out of the water and injuring boaters.

Silver carp were imported to Arkansas in the 1960s where they were used in federally funded sewage treatment experiments.

They escaped their containment ponds soon thereafter and have been swimming north since.

http://www.jsonline.com/news/31339794.html

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 on: 11/21/09, 16:02 
 
Thanks for the link Phil.  I have been wanting to go back to Table Rock and bass fish.  Its been close to 20 years.  These structure ids give me a place to start.
DeadDrift
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 on: 11/19/09, 17:20 
 
Hi Blidwils73,

I've actually heard stories from a couple fishermen that swear they saw or heard walleyes feeding on top, but certainly not like white bass do.  The white bass are biologically built and wired for that kind of fast action cooperative feeding, and that just isn't typical walleye behavior.  Even the stories I have heard about walleyes on the surface didn't involve corralling behavior:  One involved seeing a couple eating mayflies on top in the summer, and another was about hearing them splash in shallow water at night.  The latter would be possible this time of year, as the fall night bite can sometimes be very productive with crankbaits very close to shore.  While anything is possible, I'd say it's pretty unlikely for you to observe this behavior. 
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 on: 11/18/09, 12:36 
 
See link for an article detailing planned maintenance for the Carp Barrier: 

http://www.southtownstar.com/news/1884318,111509fishkill.article

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 on: 11/16/09, 09:32 
 
Has anyone observed Walleyes feeding on the surface of Lake Erie like the White Bass do when they are corralling minnows? If so what time of year did you see this.
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 on: 11/13/09, 15:11 
 
Thanks for posting the Saginaw Bay reports for folks to read. Obviously, Saginaw Bay is much smaller than Lake Erie, so they are proposing to stock about 5 million fingerling walleyes per year, until natural reproduction recovers to the point that it exceeds the numbers of stocked fish. They estimate that it takes $44,000 for every million fingerlings produced.

So if Ohio DOW were to stock the annual crop of walleyes needed to produce a healthy year class, or 224 million fingerlings, and could do it for the same price, it would cost $44,000 X 224,000,000=$3,856,000,000,000 ($3.856 trillion) per year.

I noticed that they also want Lake Erie brood stock for stocking the reefs in Saginaw Bay, because they need the right genetic strain that will spawn on reefs, since all theirs are gone, due to sedimentation of the reefs that destroyed them for spawning, if they can construct new, fresh reefs elsewhere and keep the mud off them.

 
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 on: 11/13/09, 01:17 
 
Strategy and Options for Completing the Recovery
of Walleye in Saginaw Bay, Lake Huron
http://www.michigandnr.com/PUBLICATIONS/PDFS/ifr/ifrlibra/special/reports/SR29.pdf
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 on: 11/13/09, 01:13 
 
Saginaw Bay Walleye Population and Progress Towards Recovery
http://www.michigan.gov/documents/SB_Recovery_Plan_Update_Whitepaper_153929_7.pdf


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 on: 11/11/09, 11:51 
 
I agree, and I also think you should do more frequent smaller water changes with the trophs.
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 on: 11/07/09, 11:20 
 
Inch for inch, it is likely that when a male and female walleye are the same length, the male would be the older of the two,  thus more mature and heavier girthed-until later in the winter/spring when the female's eggs get more developed and cause her to outweigh him for a few months.

As far as the color, in addition to variations within a population, it can often also be related to stress-maybe he was hooked deeper or otherwise injured more than she was during the fight? But habitat does influence their color too, so you may be on the right track about them matching their surroundings. (Yellow perch caught in weedy area are much bolder colored than those caught in mud bottoms).
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